Just quit the personality attacks. This is a discussion board. We
should not have to state our credentials. But I have lived extensively
in both Europe and Asia while following several sports and basketball in
particular. And Elin had lived for years in the home of a Jupiter
realtor prior to meeting Tiger and it was she alone in the Woods
household that for several years actively researched -- together with a
group of realtors -- the local real estate market in order to decide on
where they should settle. Yet you come on here and state that we “don’t
know anything” about the issues. Please. Stick to giving your opinion
and make a good case for it!
Didn't you tell Eye or someone else that Elin was in law school when she met Tiger and she left her studies to be with Tiger? Nevermind, the real estate deal has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.
Tiger is larger than his sport. How many sport stars were on TV as a
toddler? He broke through in a sport primarily played by whites. His
endorsements extended far beyond sports and his commercials for American
Express showed pictures of him with his mother. His whole image evolved
around so much more than him being good at golf. People wanted him to
run for President and he spoke at inauguration events. The same cannot
be said for Kobe.
Not only was Kobe on television as a youngster, his father played in the NBA and later in Europe. Having a segment on the Mike Douglas show does not make one a celebrity. Tiger did a segment like so many other people on those variety show and disappeared until he made a name for himself on the golf course.Mike Douglas is not exactly the Mickey Mouse Club where you instantly become a household name.
Kobe and Michael's endorsements extended beyond sports. Kobe currently has an endorsement with Turkish Airlines and Mercedes Benz. Before he caught a case he was with Nutella, Coca Cola, Mc Donalds to name a few. People want Oprah, Donald Trump and Roseanne Barr to run for President, so what I've seen adult film stars make Presidential bids. That does not mean they would make it past the the first leg of the primaries or even the first debates.
Tiger's fame is global. If you had gone out into the streets of
London, Paris, Tokyo or Beijing right before Thanksgiving 2009 and asked
who Tiger Woods was, you would have received a lot of details about him
and absolutely everyone would have recognized him from a
picture. Basketball exists in Europe and there are leagues but it is not
shown on TV period (not even the local leagues) and the same goes for
many countries in Asia. I bet you that the average person on those
continents would not recognize Kobe from a picture.
You are delusional and misinformed. Kobe is one of the most recognizable people on the planet. It's almost sad how uninformed you are about anything outside of golf.
Tiger was in an accident. The drama of the situation with a world
famous athlete hurt in a car accident contributed to the heightened
attention. For a while, all we knew was that Tiger had been in an
accident and TV channels around the world followed live pictures of
comings and goings from the hospital, including Elin’s mother on a
gurney and taken in an ambulance. There were several 911 calls for a
period of time. And a police investigation. With this backdrop, it is
quite natural that media followed what happened and that people around
the world were interested in all the sorted details that followed. This
drama did not exist in the personal scandals of other sports stars.
I'm pretty sure Michael Jordan's father being murdered, Michael being accused of fathering children, Kobe's sexual assault case and Vanessa being taken to the hospital after fainting, then losing a baby a few months later was pretty dramatic for them.
Tiger's wife was accused of violence. Elin was present at the scene
of the accident and there were rumors that she hit him. This added
component of a crime by the wife did not exist for the wives of other
No, it didn't. Lionel Richie's wife actually beat him up when she caught him in bed with another woman. She admitted it. Lionel Richies is known all around the world yet and there was no excessive media coverage.
Tiger's scandal happened in a new media era. The evolution of both
social media and personal communication with text messages and taped
cell phone calls contributed to why we know more about the details about
Tiger’s scandal than that of MJ in his day.
More evidence that you have no idea what you are talking about. Michael Jordan's divorce was finalized in 2006. Micheal Jordan was openly dating his current fiance and other women before his divorce was finalized. Yvette was on his arm, posing with him on the red carpet while he was still married to Juanita. I'm fairly sure the internet, cell phones with text message capabilities existed in 2006. When Donald Trump was caught cheating with Marla Maples in the early 90s there was a media frenzy for a few weeks. Now go back to 1994 when OJ Simpson's wife Nicole Brown was killed. OJ was not known outside the US because he played football which was almost exclusively played in America. That case played out around the world and dominated headlines all over the world for over a year. That was before everyone had a cell phone, before text messages existed and the internet as we know it. OJ's case in 1994-1995 got more media coverage than Tiger's case in 2009-2010. When Rae Carruth killed his pregnant girlfriend in 2000 it barely got any coverage.
To the extent that the race of Tiger's wife even played a role in all
of this, it could just as well have lessened the
attention. Crimes against those who have it easy are less serious.
(Many argue that there is still an extra hurdle rising in the
establishment if you are of a certain ethnicity or background.) Few
people take pity on a beautiful blond that is a member of the political
and media elite. So a black wife may have received more sympathy from
the general public.
What planet are you from? Everyone took pity on Elin and demonized Tiger. People are still demonizing Tiger and trying to rub the divorce in his face two years later. That is the focus of this topic. No one is going out of their way to bring down Phil. However with Tiger they followed Rachel Uchitel all the way to Australia and Dubai to catch Tiger cheating.
This is just sad. So I will only respond to your question and personal attack:
No, I did not tell Eye that Elin was in law school. I said that she deferred acceptance to the top university for psychology studies in order to work on her English as an aupair and that had she not met Tiger she would have continued those studies. (Her stay with the Parneviks was extended because of Tiger and Jesper’s wife has been a Jupiter realtor for two decades.)
I am neither “delusional” nor “misinformed”. You have no basis for such a statement. You know nothing about which sports I follow more than golf and for how many years I have lived on different continents. We simply disagree. I am confident in my opinion on what American sport stars are known among the general European public and will happily perform a test on my next visit.
Again, the rest is just sad. BUT PLEASE QUIT THE PERSONAL ATTACKS!
"You know absolutely nothing about the dynamics of race in this country and it's not your fault you don't know any better but, you need to realize you are in no position to challenge anyone on race relations in the US."
WOW! You obviously do not know anything about my race and family history. So please do not tell what I am in a position to have an opinion about. My dad would turn in his grave if he heard someone say such things to me. This will be my last post on this board because of your attitude.
Shoot. I meant to send you an e-mail with a photo from my back deck. My yard looks beautiful as all the trees are covered with snow. But ugh. I really have decided I don't like snow. I mean I wish it would snow and then melt maybe 4 hours after it finishes. It's just a mess to travel in and you have to wear snow boots and a coat. I don't like wearing either one. Anyway----
GO TIGER!!!! SHOW NO MERCY!!!!!!!