2005,  :-)

not throwing, but dropping the clubs, i think kinda started

with Freddy and VJ.   but that is kind of new, ( 4 or 5 yrs)

and both Freddie and VJ  had similar back injuries.  and

i am inclined to believe that is why they started doing that. 

to try and compensate for their injuries and the pain

associated with it.   i believe both of them have recently

seen the same  doctor in Germany who helped them both

with their back injuries and pain.  i like both players and i

am glad they are better.


but throwing clubs?

i thought of another instance.   a few years back,

my best friend was playing golf with a couple of buddies.  

one of them got angry about a bad shot and slammed down

his driver.   the third guy, (not my friend)  told him never to

do that again.  and he wanted to know why because, he said,

to third guy, you do the same thing yourself.   but he told him. 

not anymore.   the reason why?    a guy he knew had done

the same thing around that same time.   slammed down his

graphite driver.   the driver broke.  part of it bounced back

up and stabbed the guy in the neck.   he went on to explain

that the guy was lucky that it was not a main artery or his aorta.

he lived.   but it was a bad situation.    that is why  i say that

the golfers themselves can also be injured.   and others can be injured too.

it is not good. 

VJ  and Couples dealing with severe back pain, i believe

may have been trying to figure out a way to play golf with

their injuries.   do they still do it?  i don't know.  

but for other pros to mimic it, (unless they also have injuries)

i just don't like it.   and definitely  amateurs should not develop

these bad habits. 

however.  

Tiger Woods is still my fave !!!! 

GO TIGER !!!!

TIGER WOODS IS THE BEST!

:-)

Bubba and Tiger are two different people with two different experiences.
I read somewhere that a person's personality starts to set  when they are around two years old and there are many factors that play a part in how we develop.
Bubba never took golf lessons. He taught himself how to play with a wiffle ball bat. Yesterday during his speech he said he never got this far in his dreams. This is a guy who is just thrilled to win a major. Sergio has resigned himself to the idea that he will NEVER win a major because he's not good enough.
Tiger on the other hand has been playing golf since he could stand up. He grew up all his life expecting to win multiple majors, expecting to break records, to transcend the sport. He does not have the same mindset as other golfers because he's not just trying to win, he's trying to make history. It's no surprise to me that Tiger has tunnel vision, it takes an incredible amount of focus and dedication to reach the level he's reached.

Can he be passionate without the club throwing? I don't know if TIGER can be passionate without throwing a tantrum. Can someone else be passionate without throwing a tantrum? Sure, if that is their disposition. That's not Tiger's disposition and I don't know why people expect him to change. There is more at stake for him than the average player on the PGA tour.
Tiger is 36 years old. He's already set in his ways. He didn't become the man that he is overnight and he's certainly not going to change overnight. His environment, nurturing, and experience made him the man that he is for better or worse.

18,   :-)

you are right.  no it doesn't happen overnight.

but for Tiger Woods it has happened before.

i don't know what he did in college, etc.

but on the pga tour, he did not start

dominating in golf until he learned good course

management.   i did not say winning.  i said

dominating.  

when a person's mind is not clear,  and anger

is over riding clarity of mind, people are liable

to do things they regret.   and that goes for all

people.  not just Tiger. 

i am curious.  did you read my entire post?

i think we might not be on the same page. 

i would like to know if you read the entire post.

thanks.

:-)

TIGER WOODS IS THE BEST!

You are right about them not controlling The Masters, but because they recognize it as an official part of the Tour's schedule, and it is an official money event that counts on the PGA Tour and it awards FedEx Cup points, the Tour still has the right to fine him.

CC,

thanks for answering gppg's question.

i did not know the answer.

:-)

TIGER WOODS IS THE BEST!

I read it and I understand what you are saying so don't think this is a sermon. I disagree about his course management I don't think that is his problem.  It wasn't meant to be this year for Tiger. I don't want to take anything away from Bubba but, this years Masters was an apparition. I didn't watch the other top players but, based on their placement they struggled too so I think it goes beyond course management.

Tiger has been catching a lot of heat for this behavior for years. There are montages of Tiger blow ups on youtube.

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkgJ3TbaMgk

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EIbRJGIfh8&feature=related

18,  :-)

lol !!!

i have heard and seen Tiger's rants and cussing before. 

lol !!!

and i myself used to cuss like a sailor.   yes. it is true. 

so my preference for Tiger.   i hate his cussing.

i wish he would stop.   but he has not.

but his course management?  the proof is in the pudding.

when he got that together, he dominated golf.   and i believe

the lack of it began to creep back up on him while he was

with Haney.   and so it is today.  

course management is only going to help to elevate his

game even more.   he will have a clear head and know

better what shots he needs to hit and what his next

moves should be out there on the course, etc.  especially

when he hits trouble shots. 

and the cussing and ranting (which i hate )  are Tiger's

own personal pep talks to himself.   lol !!!!   i still believe

he could do the same thing without the cussing, but that's

just me. 

course management is a lot of things, but when it is lacking,

it is not a good thing for golfers.   yes. they can win. 

but they can do even better when they also have that

piece of the puzzle in place as well.

i love the fist pumps, and all the other raw emotion, etc.

:-)

TIGER WOODS IS THE BEST!

I don't believe course management was his problem at the Masters, and we certainly didn't hear a word about course management at API. After all he won it. He knows where he has to hit them and where the good miss is. Face it, he just didn't hit it well at all at the Masters for what ever reason. If you aren't hitting it well, course management sort of goes out the window and you are continually scrambling. 

Cussing, club dropping, doesn't bother me. Booting it on the other hand, maybe not.

 

gppg,   :-)

yeah.  it's ok that we disagree.  but i believe course management comes

into play at all times.  no matter how a golfer is hitting it. 

sometimes it is more noticeable than at other times.  but i believe it can

help a person dig out of a hole, or at least , help to make the hole smaller.

even if it is nothing more than walking away from a bad day or a bad shot,

with a better outlook and good perspective for the next tourney or the next shot.   

commentators don't  talk about course management they way they used to.  

but it still has an impact on the player and his/her game. 

one has to be able to stay on top of their emotions, not allowing bad

feelings and emotions to take control of what they are doing on the golf

course.  it does not mean a peson goes into denial.  it just means that

a person makes sure they stay in the right frame of mind as they are

playing.    if angry and negative emotions take control, it can and does

effect a golfers performance.   and i believe i could see it in Tiger's

play.  and i have been seeing it for the better  part of a year, i just

did not pay much attention to it because  he used to have such

great course management.    but now i realize that is what i have

been noticing.  yes.  the swing change is in process, etc., but i also

think his course management has to be sured up as well.

it helps a golfer to quickly  put bad shots, etc. , behind them as they

approach their next shot.   and when they can clearly focus on what

they want to do on each shot, they begin to have and keep the

advantage.

:-)

TIGER WOODS IS THE BEST!

lol @ booting the club.   :-)

18,

when Tiger's club went into the gallery,

i believe that was an accident.

and thank goodness, no one appeared to

be hurt.

:-)

TIGER WOODS IS THE BEST!