Joyous: I'm not sure that we disagree on anything. I was responding to an earlier comment that Nadal would have beaten Roger in the semi.

Obviously, Nadal's second round opponent certainly was not in top 4 ranking, but that does not change the facts that Nadal lost and Roger won all his matches, We should not in any way try to minimize anyone's championship.

Respectfully disagree. Not a chance.

Nadal rules on clay, Federer rules on grass.  Chances are Federer would have beaten Nadal.

its a church, not an asylum. although for some, the two could be confused...

john mcenroe said something very profound that rings very true, people love success, but they hate successful people. that makes him the GOAT.