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  • 6/22/12
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  • From: kuki
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GOLFCHANEL.COM IS SUGGESTING THAT TIGER SHOULD GET HELP WITH HIS PUTTING OTHER THAN HE HIRED SHAWN FOLEY FOR HIS SWING.  HIS BUDDIES HUNTER MAHAN AND ROSE HAVE BEEN GETTING PUTTING HELP FROM AN EUROPEN MARK ROWE AND THAT HAS IMPROVED THEIR GAME SIGNIFICANTLY. 

OTHER THAN STEVE STRICKER AND ONCE IN A AWHILE JOEY WERE ASKED FOR EXTRA HELP, TIGER NEVER GOT ANY OUTSIDE HELP.

I STILL THINK IT'S HIS APPROACH SHOT....LOL

  • 6/22/12
I read this article. For months I've been saying it's time to bring in a putting coach because it's painfully clear that he doesn't know how to fix it.
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  • 6/22/12
Tiger,  

i think kuki and 18 have something here. 

so. 

i will tell you again.

i know someone who can help you.  

and it will not take long @ all !!!!

i know you are a busy man. 

just have your people to contact my people.  

and this is my last time mentioning it .....  unless i mention it again.

:-)

kuki and 18.    Tiger is # one in putting from i think it is 20 - 25 feet.

he just has to tighten up his putting from a little closer in and

also from further back.   and he will get it done, but you hate to see

him miss though.  :-(

so.  Tiger.  have your people contact my people, for real, buddy.
i am not joking.   i kid around a lot but i am not joking.   :-)   no joke.  

hey, 18.   did you contact Tiger about your idea for his putting greens?


:-)




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  • 6/22/12

 

 

 

           Maybe it is a simple matter of Tiger's having problems with his eyes.      :(

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  • 6/22/12
By Rex Hoggard

The problem with Monday morning quarterbacking is hindsight’s inevitable distortion of the facts. With retrospect, it’s far too easy to forget that real-time is no place for critical analysis.

But this isn’t about Tiger Woods’ tie for 21st at the U.S. Open so much as it is an attempt to avoid a similar fate next month at Royal Lytham & St. Annes or August’s PGA Championship.

Anyone with Internet access and a basic understanding of math can add this up, putting cost Woods his fourth U.S. Open title and Grand Slam No. 15, simple as that.

He opened with rounds of 69-70 for a share of the halftime lead despite needing 60 putts to cover 36 holes (29-31) and when his ball-striking went sideways on Saturday his pedestrian putting (34 putts) led to a tournament-ending 75.

“Hit the ball really well. Unfortunately I just didn't have the speed of the greens until today,” Woods said on Sunday in San Francisco following a 29-putt final round. “The way I struck the golf ball, the way I controlled it all week is something that's very positive going forward and if I would have just hung in there a little bit better (on Saturday) and missed it on the correct side a couple times then I would have been in a better position going into today.”

Where some see denial in Woods’ postmortem we see a starting point.

For the week, Woods tied for sixth in fairways hit and tied for seventh in greens in regulation at The Olympic Club but was 61st, out of 72 players, in putting. Statistically that’s better than he hit the ball when he won the Open in 2000 (T-14 in fairways and first in GIR) and 2008 (T-56 in fairways and T-14 in GIR). Of course he ranked 33rd and 11th in putting, respectively, at those championships.

Only his 2002 U.S. Open victory – T-7 in fairways and first in GIR – was statistically superior to last week.

But this is not uncovered territory. Even his victories this year at Bay Hill and Muirfield Village were primarily ball-striking affairs, having finished T-59 and T-42, respectively, in putting.

Statistics might not be the answer, but when it comes to Woods’ newfound inability to turn 36-hole leads into trophies like he once did, the numbers should at least give him a few talking points.

Earlier this year, Sean Foley suggested Hunter Mahan, long considered one of the game’s top shot-makers, meet with Mark Roe, a European Tour player who is quickly becoming the sport’s newest short-game guru. Justin Rose, another of Foley’s students, gave Roe credit for his improved play around the greens following his victory at last year’s BMW Championship.

It may be time for Foley – who has endured a heightened level of scrutiny for his work with Woods, despite a litany of statistics that suggest Tiger’s swing is as solid as ever – to attempt a similar intervention with Woods.

Whether it is Earl Woods’ teachings, which guided Tiger’s putting earlier in his career, or a new set of eyes, it’s time for the game’s former alpha male to make a putting change.

With the exception of Steve Stricker, one of Woods’ closest confidants on Tour who has offered the occasional tidbit, Woods has eschewed putting advice. Whereas he’s on his third swing coach as a professional, when it comes to the short stick he has adhered to the less-is-more approach.

Even during tournament rounds, Woods has demonstrated a reluctance to seek advice from his caddie. Steve Williams was rarely called in to read a putt and last week Joe LaCava said his new boss may ask for his help once or twice a round.

Until recently there was no reason to look to others. For the better part of a decade it seemed Woods made every putt that counted. From 2004-09, he ranked outside the top 15 in total putting just once (2006 when he was 24th), but injuries – physical and otherwise – have taken a toll and it’s impossible not to consider last week’s Open an opportunity missed.

There are no guarantees that a new set of eyes will help, but after meat-handing his best chance at getting off the major schnied at Olympic this much is certain – it couldn’t hurt.












  • 6/22/12

I would never be so bold as to offer specific advice or instructions on Tigers swing or putting style. If he were to seek outside help, someone with a similar approach would be better than going to Mark Roe,. Steve Stricker actually has a different style; but Tiger respects him because they read greens the same, try for the same pace, and Steve has observed Tiger's best.

Tiger's methods seem more inline with Stan Utley teachings. Some of Tiger's drills are the same and his right hand dominance agrees. Heck, Stan could visit Tiger's home and nobody would know it probably.

  • 6/22/12
UPT,
I don't know if he's #1 from putting at 20-25ft. I guess it sounds logical because he seems to be putting more from that distance than anyone else.
I've said before Tiger putted himself out of a few victories this year such as Dubai and Honda Classic and while putting hurt him at the US Open I think the striking distances were off in the 3rd & 4th around. He was having to try to make 25 and 50 ft putts.

  • 6/22/12
I  have wondered if it is his eyes and if he's having double or blurred vision. There are those who insist that he was injured on the night of the fire hydrant crash and he did indeed undergo corrective procedures due to his injuries.