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  • 4/23/12
The NE makes up their own stories then offers money if you agree to sign a contract validating their stories. I know for a fact it happened in the Michael Jackson case.

Fast-forward to December 1993. The National Enquirer, desperate to get a scoop that Jackson has abused children, heard that the Newt kids once spent time with Jackson.

The tabloid offered the Newts' father, Ronald Newt Sr., $200,000 to say that something happened between his kids and Jackson.

Newt, a San Francisco "character" and filmmaker whose past includes pimping and jail time, considered the offer.

A contract was drawn up, signed by Enquirer editor David Perel. Enquirer reporter Jim Mitteager, who is also now deceased, met with Newt and his son at the Marriott hotel in downtown San Francisco.

It seemed that all systems were go. But the Newts declined the offer at the last minute.

Ron Newt Sr., to whom $200,000 would have seemed like the world on a silver platter, wrote "No good ucker" where his signature was supposed to go. The reason: Nothing ever happened between Jackson and the Newt boys.

Indeed, no kids, no matter how much money was dangled by the tabloids, ever showed up to trade stories of Jackson malfeasance for big lumps of cash after the first scandal broke in 1993.

"Maybe there aren't any other kids," a current Enquirer editor conceded.

I met Bobby Newt yesterday near the office where he works as a mortgage broker in suburban Los Angeles.

Just as his dad promised me a few days earlier, he's a good-looking kid. He's half black and half Chinese.

Robert and his twin brother were likely very cute kids. They have the same features as other boys advertised as alleged Neverland "victims." But all Bobby Newt remembers of his encounter with Jackson is good times.

And all he remembers about the man from The National Enquirer is that he wanted Bobby, then 18, to lie.

"He said, 'Say he grabbed you on the butt. Say he grabbed you and touched you in any kind of way,'" Newt said. "He told us he took all these people down. Now he was going to take Michael down. That he would really destroy him. He told us he took all these other famous people down. All the major people that had scandals against them. He said, 'We take these people down. That's what we do.'"

Prior to Bobby's meeting with Mitteager, Bobby's father met with him and brought along an intermediary, San Francisco politician, businessman and fellow jailbird Charlie Walker.

Walker is infamous in San Francisco circles for being "hooked up" to anything interesting cooking on the West Coast.

"My dad said these dudes are offering this money to take Michael Jackson down. And the guy [Mitteager] said, 'Say he touched you. All you have to do is say it. But you might have to take the stand. You might have to go on 'Oprah' in front of all these people. You have to be prepared for this thing. Just say it. And we'll give you money,'" Newt said.

Two pieces of evidence confirm the Newts' story. One is the actual contract proffered by the Enquirer and signed by Perel, who declined to comment for this story.

The contract, written as a letter, says it's an agreement between the tabloid and the Newts for their exclusive story regarding "your relationship with and knowledge of Michael Jackson, and his sexuality, your knowledge of Michael Jackson's sexual contact and attempts at sexual contact with Robert Newt and others."

Mitteager expected them to sign, even though it was completely untrue and there was, in fact, no story.

He knew you were lying, I reminded Bobby Newt.

"Exactly! And he didn't care! He was like, 'Just say it and we'll give you the money.' And I was like, 'He [Jackson] never touched me!" Newt said. "He [Mitteager] was really fishing and really digging. Think about it — most people you say it to, 'We'll give you this money,' even [if it's not true]. And they'd take it."

Bobby Newt recalled more details of the 30-minute meeting with The National Enquirer's reporter:

"He was trying to coach me — if I decided to take the money, what would happen. He said 'You know, it's going to be a huge scandal. You'll probably have a lot of people not liking you. You're going to be famous!' But to me, you'd be ruined. And the truth is Michael didn't do anything even close to trying to molest us."

Ironically, the second piece of evidence also backs up the Newts' story. Unbeknownst to them, they were taped by Mitteager.

I told you last week that Mitteager did more surreptitious taping than Richard Nixon. When he died, the tapes were left to Hollywood investigator Paul Barresi. His dozens of hours of tapes include a conversation between Mitteager, Ron Newt Sr. and Charlie Walker.

When I read some of the transcript back to Newt the other day, he was shocked.

"I said all that," he observed, surprised to have his memory prodded some 12 years later.

Back in the mid-'80s, Ron Newt Sr. put his three sons together as a singing group much as Joseph Jackson did. He called them The Newtrons.

After much pushing, he got the attention of Joe Jackson, who agreed to manage the group. Joe Jackson got the Newtrons a showcase at the Roxy in West Hollywood.

Michael showed up and loved them. The result was a two-week stay for the boys at the Encino house on Hayvenhurst Ave., where they were supposed to work on their music.

"We would see Michael in passing. We didn't see him, maybe, because he was working on an album. We saw him downstairs in the kitchen and we talked to him," he said.

The Newtrons eventually got a record contract and recorded the Jackson 5 hit "I Want You Back" at Hayvenhurst. They also spent the night at Tito Jackson's house. But nothing about what Bobby Newt hears now about himself or others makes sense.

"I don't know what to believe. He had prime time with me and my brother in the guest room for two weeks," he said. "And he didn't try anything."

As a footnote to all of this: In the small world of the Los Angeles music business, Bobby Newt recently worked with choreographer and alleged Jackson "victim" Wade Robson on tracks for his first album, a potential hit compendium of original R&B ballads.

Jackson's former maid Blanca Francia implicated Robson in the case during Monday's testimony. Robson is not testifying for the prosecution.

"Wade is straight as they come. He's getting married. And nothing ever happened to him, either," Newt said.

He shakes his head,
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  • 4/23/12
Bill,

i am so glad you are a media guy!!

i have always said that when some of these stories are quoting as you stated in your post,
 according to our sources, etc.  i'm like..............  yeah.  right.  but who are these sources, etc.?

:-)

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2)...say sources...
3)TE learned...
4)...revealed a close source...
5)Experts say...
6)...say sources...
7)...revealed a close source...
8)...continued the source...
9)...according to sources...
10)...noted the source...
11)...an insider told TE...
12)Experts told TE...
13...said the source...




Edited 4/23/12   by  underpartoday
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  • 4/27/12
i see, Bill.

well, the mysterious world of  ........................  journalism.

:-)
  • 4/27/12

Please refrain from defining what constitutes a Tiger fan. You can only speak for yourself (a person who profusely relies on and republishes information based on inadequate sources).

 

The protection of sources is one of the most fundamental principles of journalism. It is a right accorded to journalists and regulated by law in 49 of 50 states as well as in international law. (Have you heard of Watergate? Was that worthless journalism?)

 

No credible journalism training program will ever teach that accounting for two sources makes up a test of what is credible journalism.


Edited 4/27/12   by  oceangal (oceangal1)
  • 4/27/12

 (a person who profusely relies on and republishes information based on inadequate sources).

So let me get this right oc......the statistics that Bill puts on this site are based on "inadequate sources?"  Honest question - how can you dispute Tiger's record and please enlighten us with your version of his record.  That is part of Bill's "profuse" information as you say. 

 

I haven't read the article yet but let me guess, it must support your need to paint Tiger in a bad light only to support Elin as a victim or an alleged action that supports some need you have to protect the fact that Elin is from your home country. 

So, Fox news would be good with you even though there are opposing videos from nominees in our upcoming general election.  Bush had one source for mobile WMD's that took us to a war in Iraq and you want to question the amount of sources?  I think the answer to that is QUALITY of sources. 

  • 4/27/12
Hold on Paddy, Watergate had unnamed sources. Girl, didn't you know that a gossip tabloid is just as credible as Bill Bradley's Washington Post?
Now I freely admit my knowledge of Watergate is base solely on what I learned in history class, BUT  I'm pretty sure Woodward and Bernstein had more sources than "Deep Throat." Those tapes Nixon made,  Gordon Liddy, and the Deans served no purpose in bringing down Nixon. Bradley, Woodward & Bernstein knew Deep Throat's identity and they had verified his credentials before they ran stories using the information he provided.

Anytime the National Enquirer has a credible story they use named sources as they did in the John Edwards story and in the Tiger stories. In both stories the whistle blowers also passed polygraph tests. Here they are just printing the same old same old sourcing the info as people close to Tiger.
The National Enquirer and other tabloids ran the same unnamed sources stories on Gary Condit, the Ramseys and the girl that accused Kobe Bryant of assault and each of them sued the socks off of the Enquirer, Globe, and numerous other tabloids and news media organizations. Tiger should do the same.


I haven't read the article yet but let me guess, it must support your need to paint Tiger in a bad light only to support Elin as a victim or an alleged action that supports some need you have to protect the fact that Elin is from your home country. 

Hmm interesting you should say this. As I mentioned in the other discussion I read the stories from the Enquirer online and, there are at least one or two stories about Tiger every month. The majority of the stories cite Elin's friends as the source and this story was no different.

  • 4/27/12

Well Beat, I'm not surprised re sources about Tiger.  That is why I posted to oc about bashing Bill's accurate stats of Tiger's career.  So, I will have to read the Enquirer article to verify this alleged atrocity that Tiger has done now.  oc tends to respond to anything that slams Elin or Sweden so I am making an assumption that the article had something to do with that.  If you have a link could you post it? 

We even have a more recent episode with our government in the Valerie Plame exposure that involved Richard Armitage as the first to leak her name directed by none other that Rumsfeld and Cheney only to have Scooter take the fall, Rove and Novak were the coordinators to get this story out.  According to Colin Powell, the 16 words were practiced but Bush wanted them removed so he was prepared both with and without those sixteen words and went with it when he addressed the UN but had been told by George Tenet that they had been removed.  Thus the diversion to expose Valerie Plame and the set up of Scooter. 

Interestingly enough for me, at the time that 9/11 occurred, I was a counter-t3rrorism specialist.......if people only knew!

Colin Powell was the real scapegoat - how unfortunate!  That's why he left AND he did leave while George Tenet got the honor of our country upon his retirement.