or is it other criminals who refuse to stop stealing from others.
seen a sanger kid went to a pot farm to rob them. he is now missing. sad this would be thief may have met his maker for being a thief.
my thoughts. stop stealing! then adults sent the kid in then left him when hearing shots,what great people this kid was with.
sad thing all the way around,hopefully the guys just took him to shake him up.
yet what gets into folks who can do the same thing as the farmer yet refuse to work and decide to take what others worked for.
Here's a link to a news article on this story: http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=8621239
My views are as follows:
1. I recall when America's general population knew it was 'wrong' to steal. So, I want to know what happened to cause so many people today to believe either (a) that this was just a stupid 'mistake' by a kid, or (b) that criminals are Entitled to TAKE FROM others what they want -- including the 'right' to free residency / health care / food / education, etc. -- when government agencies Fail to freely provide the desired property to them? Does such mentality naturally flow from government 'entitlement' programs?
2. I find the growing LACK of Respect for the Personal Property of Others, by individuals and by government officials, alarming. There should be Zero Tolerance for entering, and/or taking, the property of another without the owner's consent. With this said, I realize human life is of supreme value; but how can it be 'correct' to expect society to value a life which Disrespects the life of his/her victim. Taking a person's property 'without harming' the person is nonetheless disrespect of, and injurious to, the victim's life as the victim's mental and physical energies that went into the property is forever lost. It's time to RESTORE Traditional AMERICAN Values, which assigns Shame and Scorn upon thieves.
Yes, kids -- and adults -- make stupid mistakes. Humans are imperfect at all ages. But the Individual must be made to suffer the consequences for their stupid mistake; not society. After all, that's why we have laws against driving under the influence, right?
Tolerance Breeds Intolerance, as stupid people always overstep the lines of generousity, understanding and forgiveness.
Surely that kid knew what he was doing was wrong just like every kid who foolishly darts in front of traffic and trains because they don't want to 'play it safe by going by the rules'. Their 'foolish, willful mistake' is no accident; and it impacts injury upon those forced to react to the risk of loss / danger created by their willful selfish act. Feeling 'sorry' for the person who makes the foolish willful mistake does not well serve him or her; nor the rest of society. Because I am caring I want these individuals to 'learn from' their mistake. Pity parties do not serve to enlighten people.
I can't say that I find this particular story sad; as I have no information suggesting, for example, that kid was mentally ill to the point he didn't know what he was doing was wrong.
I find it sad that, as a society, we have established a history of tolerance which has given rise to an uncaring attitude when it comes to Others and Their Property; as well as Self-Respect. Sad, indeed.
My views here have nothing to do with the particular 'crop' which was the subject of the reported intended theft; nor the actions of the individual(s) who reportedly fired shots. I address only the issue of theft.
nails I read he and two "friends" drove to that location to steal the plants. Since he is reportedly 16, and nothing was reported to suggest otherwise, I assumed that his friends were teenagers as well. But, even if the "friends" were older, at 16 he is/was old enough to know right from wrong; and, again, I am assuming he acted willfully as nothing was reported to suggest that iwas not the case. Thus, as I see it, he knowingly assumed the risk associated with criminal behavior: Death or Jail/Prison. Again, I am not suggesting the shooter had a legal right to defend his property with deadly force, or that one should have a right to do so under the reported facts. Nonetheless, that is a known risk associated with criminal behavior. I bet if it were legal to shoot a person caught in the act of stealing one's car we would see a big decline in the number of car thefts. It would probably reduce the number of people living off of taxpayers, too, lol.
No doubt I sound uncaring but I am not uncaring. I care that people learn to be self-sufficient, honest and law-abiding. As I see it we should have compassion for those forced to defend against criminals; rather than for the willful criminal. Now, if the 'criminal' was 10-13, or younger, I would not be so quick to assume he knew right from wrong because I realize some children learn all the wrong things from their parents and their neighborhoods and that it takes them some time before they 'learn better' on their own; after being exposed to more people outside of their inner circle.
It sounds to me as if they all did wrong, but the '3-friends' initiated it. I have no tolerance for teenagers who skip school, engage in criminal activity, and make babies for taxpayers to support in homes which foster additional irresponsible and criminal behavior. It is a sickness; and society is sick for making excuses for it and acting as though a 14 year old mother and father is something to 'celebrate'.
ok ... stepping off the box, now, lol. Surely someone will want to get on that box and sit me straight! ... roflol
If SM is dead I suspect his friends will be charged since they apparently already admitted they all went there to steal the plants. So where did you hear or read that the 2 friends were adults? Have you heard anything further about the investigation, e.g., have the police been able to check out the vehicle with the open trunk parked near where the friends last saw SM on the ground; or have they interviewed the individuals who reportedly did the shooting?
sir_jean, i don't know where i see they was adults. will keep looking, have been reading all i can find on this.
legal adult or not they was able to drive him to the scene and are just as guilty as anyone else.
I agree, nails. I haven't read anything stating who drove the car to the location but, even if the missing minor was the driver, I would view his two 'friends' as 'guilty' in light of the reported admission that they all three went there to commit the criminal offense. The 'friends' probably left to avoid being shot but the not so clear part for me is why they only 'eventually' got around to reporting the crimes.
I'm curious about the distance between the location at which the car was parked and the location of the missing minor when he was shot. IOW, I'm wondering if the shooter knew those in the car were with the minor; or if they were even aware of the presence of the car. If the car was nearby in plain view it would seem that shots would have at least hit the car even if not the 2 persons in the car. Then, regardless of all that, as you say what sort of friends wait hours and hours to report what happened? It seems someone must have known that the missing minor was with them earlier and thus they knew they would have to explain when last they saw him. But, knowing that from the beginning, why would they wait so long to report it when time was of the essence -- unless they had reason to believe he was dead and they were trying to come up with a story to get themselves out of trouble?
Anyway, 'guilty' all around; and a waste of tax dollars.
I have a lot of double thoughts on this Disaster. And the loss of that childs life IF he did die from this, IS a disaster.
Why are those Plants that are known to be something Children will risk their lives for, even Accessable to the public in such an easy way? Why aren't there at least six foot fences around them? PLUS, Why are these 'Farmers' and I use that term lightly, Armed and Ready to KILL over their crop? I can only Hope those 'Farmers' are in Custody and being interogated to the UtMost. They could have used a weapon to 'Warn', Not Murder... YES, the kid was wrong. YES, I do believe the two that drove him there are just as guilty as him of Theivary... BUT, I also say the ones that killed him should be held as well..... EVEN the bible tells farmers to Plant the outside row for the 'passerbys'...... to give them Gladly.. And IF you grow something BAD for the Public you shouldn't be GROWing it in the first place.
Now IF that child had to climb a fence to get into that field, it would have at least been a deterent. Plus in Growing that type of plant, I would even say Electrofy that fence!! BUT SHOOT HIM??? NO!!! that kid did not deserve to lose his life, and the shooters were Wrong. They too could have called 911 with a call that just might have saved a life. Just MY humble opinion. and I'm very thankful I can still give it!!
While thinking about my post, I wanted to add, I do not condone stealing. No matter what. I do not want a person in my Home if they are thieves, they're Not welcome... I make that well Known. And I have Not One thing against owning a weapon. That is our Right. .. BUT I do have something against the Lack of Respect of Life. And that is what I first felt when I saw this story. IF that young man is Dead, and from a Very Stupid decision to NO Doubt listen to his elders.. Then there was NO respect of Life here. The mongs should have called for help from Our Authorities. IT is a Plant for goodness sakes... Yes it probably is an Expensive Plant. BUT a Plant none the less.. He was a Breathing Human Being, with his whole Life ahead of him. Bless His Family and Friends, and IF he is Alive I Pray he comes home soon.
Has there been any Update on this story? I haven't heard anything..