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| | | | | 339.2 in reply to 339.1 | |
| Why don't we just continue to use scholarships to entice these students to take the "harder" classes? The way the system is set up right now allows for students who show promise and come from what your article describes as low socioeconomic backgrounds to have the opportunity to attend college. But I suppose the answer to all educational issues is always to throw money at the problem. No sense at trying for intrinsic motivation. |
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| From: | Guest | 11/17/2006 12:00 pm |
| To: | pthuente |
 Poll (3 of 7) | | | | 339.3 in reply to 339.2 | |
What ever happened to self-motivation? When I went to school, it was well known what classes you needed to take in order to get accepted into college. If you did not take the classes, you wern't getting in. Period.
The government shouldn't need to provide the motivation. Increased lifetime wages, better job selection, and the joys of continuing education should be enough.
I see this as a way for the private colleges to get more money from the state. Pure and simple. fishing_guy |
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| From: | nrober1 | 11/17/2006 1:25 pm |
| To: | ALL |
Poll (4 of 7) | | | | 339.4 in reply to 339.1 | |
| This proposal is outrageous! I came from a lower middle class family and was the first generation to attend college, but I was not paid to take harder classes in order to succeed; I had self motivation to want to do better for myself. I think that just because these students are recent immigrants, minorities, or are from a lower class family is no reason for them to be paid to take harder classes to motivate them to go to college. There are plenty of scholarships that target every different type of person and background that they have full access to; the state shouldn't have to pay 50 million a year to try to get these students to be motivated to do better for themselves. OUTRAGEOUS |
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| From: | Guest | 11/17/2006 3:40 pm |
| To: | Guest |
Poll (5 of 7) | | | | 339.5 in reply to 339.3 | |
Just went to the website of the private college group. Here is their website:
http://www.mnprivatecolleges.org/policy/summary_2007
They actually advocate $100 million as part of a $327 million aid package.
How about a few less new buildings and a more reasonable tuition schedule? fishing_guy |
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| From: | Guest | 11/17/2006 4:12 pm |
| To: | mreszler unread |
Poll (6 of 7) | | | | 339.6 in reply to 339.1 | |
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339.6 in reply to 339.1 |
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Paying inner city kids to take harder classes isn't necessarily going to make them any smarter. Sure, it'll make them take more difficult classes, but that doesn't mean they are going to do well in these classes or go onto college and a career after that.
Many of these under-performing kids shouldn't even go to college. They should instead be trained in a vo-tech field in which they'll make a good living.
But, it should be up to the student to decide what they want to do.
Say there is a student who knows they want to be a chef after graduation. Well, they don't need to take difficult classes to become a chef. So it's not fair to NOT pay that student, who is motivated, because they are choosing a career that doesn't require a 4 year degree.
PLUS, there are already options out there for public high school students to take FREE college course. Yes, FREE college. It is SO very easy to do and not often publicized. It is called Post Secondary Enrollment Options (PSEO). This is what I did 10 years ago when I was in high school. Instead of completing my required high school credits at high school, I went to the University of Minnesota for FREE (books included) and finished my high school credits there while earning college credits at the same time. There were no income requirements for this. When I actually graduated h.s., I was already a sophomore in college. I then graduated young and started my career when I was only 20 years old.
Almost any student with a C average who is a junior or senior at a public high school in Minnesota can enroll in PSEO and take college courses for free. Even at a vo-tech school or community college, where you can get job training. Yes, FREE job training.
Earning a 4 year degree doesn't mean someone is going to be successful in life. I know many people with BAs in psychology or economics or philosophy that make MUCH LESS than someone with a 2 year degree or even just job training and only a h.s. diploma. |
Edited 11/17/2006 4:17 pm ET by Lisa101010 |
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| | | | | 339.7 in reply to 339.1 | |
What a ridiculous concept. What ever happend to learning by looking at others' examples of success. Just look around you kids. People who don't do well in school most of the time don't do will in life and vise versa. Just as Jesus walked the perfect example, and we should model that as well, all you have to do is look around at positive role models and follow their lead. It should not take a bribe. How ridiculous! |
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